YouTube interview with Johnathan Bi [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRjk7aJmYfA). If you are a materialist, read: 1. Irreducible Mind by Edward Kelly — empirical approach 2. All Things Are Full of Gods by David Bentley Hart — philosophical approach Firsthand testimonies of near-death experiences: The Self Does Not Die Dale Allison's own book: Encountering Mystery